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Post by nickbug on Nov 29, 2006 0:09:01 GMT
Got some more singles last weekend. On constant play the last couple of days are both sides of a Carnival single;
Ossie & The Mocking Birds - Say What You Want To Say
Hy Mann - The Lord's Army
Best couple of new (to me) tunes I have heard in ages. Anyone know anything about Ossie Irving, Hy Mann or, more importantly who would have played on them.
Oh and I nearly forgot about the guitar playing on the b side which sounds a bit unusual to me. Who could that be?
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Post by admin on Nov 29, 2006 0:20:55 GMT
Carnival means a UK production mate.
Come in Penny....
Respect
Gordy
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Post by nickbug on Nov 29, 2006 0:26:29 GMT
Carnival means a UK production mate. Come in Penny.... Respect Gordy Good for starters, I wouldn't have known that. God I love this bloody record. |
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Post by I on Nov 29, 2006 0:46:36 GMT
"I'm in the Lord's army
I'm in the Lord's army
I will never fly over Germany
March with the cavalry
Serve in the military
I'm in the Lord's army."
Observer
I have another record by him, 'The Ska Rhythm', credited to C Hyman.
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Post by gabriel on Nov 29, 2006 6:07:24 GMT
"I have another record by him, 'The Ska Rhythm', credited to C Hyman. Yeha I got that one too. Pretty jumpy ska and in fact pretty good as well. A Ska Beat 45 - JB 200 |
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Post by heanorman on Nov 29, 2006 7:35:11 GMT
I'm not sure if Ossie was actually an artist or simply a producer. He had quite a few productions (as "King Ossie") issued on Port-o-Jam about 1964, mainly by artists who were rarely, if ever, heard from again, though perhaps Marty Robinson (PJ 4114) was the singer whp later recorded as Martel Robinson? Or even Ray Martell ('She Caught The Train') for that matter. Pure speculation, but unless anyone knows better...
As for Ossie, was he a minor sound system owner or perhaps the proprietor of a London record shop?
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Post by lankou2 on Nov 29, 2006 9:21:24 GMT
there's one Clive Hyman, right ?
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Post by I on Nov 29, 2006 12:08:12 GMT
Martel Robinson was also Ray Martell. Ossie Irving productions are generally not very good, honking, primitive, British reggae featuring mainstream singers for the most part. The good Port O Jams are of course the Studio One sides.
Reel
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Post by heanorman on Nov 29, 2006 13:00:53 GMT
There's nowt like a bit of a honk. I suppose, like the almost contemporaneous Planetone singles, they sounded good at the time, and they were pioneering efforts, amongst the first ska recorded in the UK. I used to have one of the Ossie-produced Port-o-Jams, but it seems to have left me somewhere along the way.
But yes, the Studio One-derived Port-o-Jam issues do rather put the Ossies in the shade. I have only one, by Eric Morris. I'm not sure I've ever seen the others, so they can't have sold very well.
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Post by skanick on Nov 30, 2006 0:14:15 GMT
That Monty Morris 45 is a top tune!
Anyone got "Roll On Sweet Don" on the UK port o jam?
PJ 4007 label credits both sides to Simms & Robinson but am not sure, anyone got a clue on that?
RKR credit "Don't Do It"(PJ 4007-A) as FC 2166(Roy Fuller) but its not the same tune!
Nick
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Post by heanorman on Nov 30, 2006 7:54:06 GMT
Roger Dalke, in his 'On The Beach', credits both sides to "Roy Fuller and Tiny". Come to think of it, I have seen one other PoJ UK single, which had "calypso" printed on the label, so I guess it must have been the Lord Creator which was the label's last issue. But I have never set eyes on the Drummond or the Perries. What a shame that a label which appears to have a strong selection of CS Dodd music was so under-promoted; I wonder why the Kings didn't issue them on the main R&B Discs imprint which had quite a high profile at the time.
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Post by jayb on Nov 30, 2006 11:22:08 GMT
I'll ease your pain (ossie & the mockingbirds) b/w I know (calvin falkes) on carnival - great stuff - in fact I've just made it the title of a ska comp currently enjoying a very intimate relationship with the inside of my cd player....
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Post by gabriel on Nov 30, 2006 12:27:04 GMT
For all of you who havent heard Ossie & The Mocking Birds - "Say What You Want To Say" yet, be patient. In sunday or monday I will post the new compilation that I and Nickbug have put together.
Carnival 45's vol. 1
Just give me a couple more days to finish the artwork.
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Post by heanorman on Nov 30, 2006 16:34:51 GMT
The best Carnival record I ever heard was not ska; it was a group called Westminster Five doing r&b instrumentals. I haven't heard it since pirate radio shut down (October 1967) , as they used to play it as background music sometimes while the DJ yakked vapidly, so my memory may be playing tricks here, but I think it was organ & sax - led.
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Post by nickbug on Nov 30, 2006 19:58:40 GMT
The best Carnival record I ever heard was not ska; it was a group called Westminster Five doing r&b instrumentals. I haven't heard it since pirate radio shut down (October 1967) , as they used to play it as background music sometimes while the DJ yakked vapidly, so my memory may be playing tricks here, but I think it was organ & sax - led. Mike, there should be a couple of Wes Minster Five tunes on the cd that Gabriel is working on. |
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Post by heanorman on Nov 30, 2006 23:01:57 GMT
Good. What label will issue that?
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