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Post by Baldhead Selector on Feb 15, 2006 0:30:12 GMT
I'm not sure where this is coming from ahorn. It's based on my own experience how people say things before they think. Rich black artists are considered as "sellout" while rich white artists are usually thought as genius or clever businessmen. Ok I get you. Respect Baldy
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Post by Baldhead Selector on Feb 15, 2006 0:32:56 GMT
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Post by ahorn on Feb 15, 2006 0:59:50 GMT
You can't deny that the lion's share of this list (3 out of 4 or so, can you find better ratios in other US charts?) are people who are there because they're talented or just very good. Not just the marketing department's latest fad. My respects to this bunch of great people who has been succesfull chartwise. I don't know those 90's and 00's entries very well or at all though.
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Post by zapatoo on Feb 15, 2006 12:21:52 GMT
I really ought to check (like Freddy) and see how many of those 100 I a) have albums by and b) just have odd tracks by ...and I say again... 16. Prince Pfui! ;D
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Post by Baldhead Selector on Feb 15, 2006 12:28:50 GMT
Must be time for you to step up and compile a list eh Zapa? Respect Baldy
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Post by zapatoo on Feb 15, 2006 12:32:00 GMT
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Post by Freddy C on Feb 15, 2006 14:30:50 GMT
quoting Zapatoo:"I really ought to check (like Freddy) and see how many of those 100 I a) have albums by and b) just have odd tracks by"
Of course wise guy Fred says he's got music by 87% of the artists listed and then lists the artists he has nothing by - 15 in total, not 13!! So I have music by 85% of those listed. Hell, it was late!! ;D
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Post by zapatoo on Feb 15, 2006 16:05:57 GMT
...seems like no one was counting anyway, Freddy - not me, that's for sure In any case, I understand that 88% of all statistics are made up on the spot ;D ;D
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Post by Mrs Trellis on Feb 15, 2006 21:07:14 GMT
Thanks for your replies about the term R&B. Here is what it says on that link...
Rhythm and blues (or R&B) was coined as a musical marketing term introduced in the United States in the late 1940s by Jerry Wexler at Billboard magazine, used to designate upbeat popular music performed by African American artists that combined jazz and blues. It replaced the term race music, which was deemed offensive, and was initially used to identify the style of music that later developed into rock and roll. By the 1970s, rhythm and blues was being used as a blanket term to describe soul and funk as well. Today, the acronym "R&B" is almost always used instead of "rhythm and blues", and defines the modern version of the soul and funk influenced African-American pop music that originated with the demise of disco in 1980.
Not having taken any notice of American charts, it seems a bit strange to me for there to be so many of them divided into different categories, but if I understand it right, then the best-selling singles from all the different charts then make up the Hot 100, which is a sort of chart of charts, so essentially not so disimilar from the local reggae charts etc in UK which usually make up the best sellers from specialist shops, but in this case they aren't then catalogued by the national top 40, as I'm sure many more reggae singles would probably end up at least in the lower reaches of the top 40 if they did.
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Post by missruntings on Feb 17, 2006 21:42:37 GMT
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Post by ahorn on Feb 17, 2006 21:52:15 GMT
Anita Baker had a massive success in the mid-late 80's, but then from the early 90's on she concentrated on raising her kids and stopped recording for a while. So it's rather short time to gain those all time points required. Nuff respect to her. And she's back again after a decade's absence, but the realist in me seriously doubts there's no more chart success ahead (the times and tastes of the buying public has changed from her prime time). What a voice, great performances and a handful of high quality, highly succesfull albums.
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Post by Freddy C on Feb 17, 2006 21:57:12 GMT
No Anita Baker or Jill Scott Two names that occured to me also .... but I think it's based on single sales. Rapture was huge but I'm not so sure if any of the singles from it were really big sellers. 'Sweet Love' probably did well enough. Jill Scott is probably more of an album artist too. Likewise Erykah Badu, D'Angelo etc.
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Post by ahorn on Feb 17, 2006 22:02:41 GMT
Yes, single sales, and nowadays those legal downloads from Itunes, Napster etc are counted as well. Anita Baker was (and is) more album style singer. People would want an album and maybe skipping singles.
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Post by Freddy C on Feb 17, 2006 22:33:22 GMT
I think Anita also fell out with Elektra records accusing them of not promoting 'Rhythm of Love' properly.
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