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Post by E-dogg on Feb 19, 2006 22:15:45 GMT
I just noticed that this record by trombonist Rico exists. Seems it was the only reggae release on Blue Note Records. I'm wondering what it's like...does it lean more towards jazz, ska, reggae, rocksteady...?
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Post by Mrs Trellis on Feb 19, 2006 22:22:11 GMT
Definately roots reggae. It was recorded at Joe Gibbs and Randys in 1976, with Sly & Robbie et al. Great instrumental record.
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Post by bmd on Feb 19, 2006 22:26:52 GMT
Also available from Simply Vinyl and a mighty fine pressing it is! There is also the very nice though not as essential as many say (imo) Wareika Dub.
E-Dogg, an absolutely essential Instrumental Roots Reggae Lp in my opinion, should be in the first 50 Lps of any collection..
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Post by ekki on Feb 19, 2006 22:33:10 GMT
Excellent album indeed! But you can also try to track down his "Roots to the bone" cd on Island. Compiled by Steve Barrow & has all tracks from "Wareika" except for two, but loads of bonus tracks including his fantastic version of "Take Five". More infos here: www.geocities.com/braunovi/RodriguezRico/RicoD1995Root.htm |
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Post by bmd on Feb 19, 2006 22:45:31 GMT
Another exceptional outing by Rico (bearing in mind I'm not a massive Instrumental fan) is Jama, released by the Two Tone stable, and featuring the massive tune 'Distant Drums', a particular favourite that I pull out. Check it.
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Post by paulk on Feb 19, 2006 23:13:27 GMT
Blue Note ?
Or Island ?
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Post by E-dogg on Feb 20, 2006 1:46:32 GMT
Looks as though "Man From Wareika" came out on Blue Note, Island, AND Top Ranking, all in 1977. www.roots-archives.com/release/2162Thanks everybody for the info and the nice additional suggestions. I've also seen the disc "Rico's Message-Jamaican Jazz" on Culture Press AND Jetset Records. |
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Post by Richter Atmosphere on Feb 20, 2006 19:02:16 GMT
Well, I guess it's my turn to be the lone cranky complainer.
When I listened to Man From Wareika, I found Rico's playing and arrangements sounding forced and uninspired - some of them even cheesy. I much prefer the dub version - mostly because it's a little trippier and a lot of Rico's parts are faded out.
I was much more impressed with his earlier playing on the double disc anthology on Trojan - sounded much more spontaneous, raw, and passionate.
I haven't heard nearly as much music as you guys, but I've liked the way that McCook adapted to late 70's reggae and dub compared to Rico.
Just my little opinion.
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Post by kas on Feb 20, 2006 19:52:39 GMT
"Man From Wareika" is absolutely essential.
(Imo, as always.)
"Rico's Message" is a more recent set, recorded sometime in the 90's as far as I remember. A nice record, veeeery relaxed. One of my favourite evening time chill out records.
"Jama" has so far escaped me. Is there a reissue out somewhere, or does one have to hunt out the old 2Tone issue?
His other 2Tone record "That Man is Forward" is also a very nice set.
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Post by lankou2 on Feb 20, 2006 21:14:05 GMT
one of my all-time roots classics, very deep melodic stuff, words are useless on tunes like these.
afaik, Jama Rico hasn't been re-released since its initial issue.Merrier melodies, less typically moody tunes Rico is known for.
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Post by bmd on Feb 20, 2006 21:26:15 GMT
If it was essential I could suplly a cdr of Jama to anyone interested, though I'd prefer it if it was available and ytou could get it and the artist might get a royalty for it, if not then I'm here with a copy someone once did for me.
I'm going to put Wareika on right now you know, you lot have go tmy juices a flowin'..
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Post by jcom on Feb 20, 2006 21:32:29 GMT
I had Wareika and was always looking for the dub as I heard it was better but when I got it I quickly realized that taking Rico in and out of the mix was definitely not a good idea. lankou is right; there are no words to describe the vibe from the original. I play that thing ALOT. The dub version is lost somewhere in my collection.
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Post by bmd on Feb 20, 2006 22:31:34 GMT
yes i agree i don't particularly rate the Dub set, like i said it seems to get a lot of respect and it's okay, just not the big stuff people often say it is...
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Post by thirdstrikesound on Feb 21, 2006 23:50:21 GMT
Worth picking up for the cover art alone. Essential because the music's also nice
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Post by capullo on Feb 22, 2006 16:16:13 GMT
everytime the dub (ghetto rockers - if i remember correctly) shows up on ebay people go mad and pay $200-300.-- never listened to it myself though so i can't compare. i really love the man from warreika set - especially two tracks - one is called "africa". doesn't make sense to take out rico though.
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Post by zapatoo on Feb 22, 2006 17:07:22 GMT
"Man From Wareika" - one that's passsed my by - but one I intend to get sooner or later.
It seems I've been missing out???
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Post by ekki on Feb 22, 2006 17:12:06 GMT
The "Wareika Dub" was never reissued, that's why people get mad about it. But as it is often with rare reggae stuff, the dub set didn't impress me. Much weaker than the original album. Yes Zap, you missed something. I thought you like instrumentals  |
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Post by lankou2 on Feb 22, 2006 18:58:41 GMT
the Man From Wareika was re-released a few years back in Japan, i saw some copies pop up from time to time in Paris shops, but frankly, i couldn't care less...Most dub stuff bore me fast, i'm afraid.
unlike straight instrumental recordings, which i enjoy very much, most of the time.Most of my fave dub records lean very much on the instrumental side , with not too much sound tampering.
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Post by reggaefire on Feb 22, 2006 19:46:00 GMT
Yeah, I picked up the Japanese reissue of the dub last year, most I've ever spent on a single CD (about $28). Boy was I disappointed. Listened to it a couple times and doubt I'll ever listen to it again. It could have been great - the source material is some of the best ever recorded. The dub is completely dull and uninspired, and why oh why would you strip ALL the trombone out? Sigh.
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Post by uluabob on Feb 23, 2006 1:07:20 GMT
I have to say this album and Cedric Brooks Im Flash Forward are two of my favorite all - time JA albums!!  |
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Post by zapatoo on Feb 23, 2006 8:47:22 GMT
Yes Ekki - instrumentals and I go to together like a horse and carriage - when MFW was first released, I was in the middle of a torrid affair with Disco (and we're still very good friends!!!), so I missed it. I've been well-aware of it for several years, just haven't seen it in the shops...and haven't bothered ordering online! Yet |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 24, 2006 12:39:40 GMT
Has anybody seen a copy on Blue Note?
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Post by reggaefire on Feb 24, 2006 18:00:11 GMT
My copy is on Blue Note, you probably never see them in Europe since (I think) it was a US only press (likewise I've never seen a non-Blue Note copy, aside from the simply vinyl reissue)
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Post by kalcidis on Feb 26, 2006 14:18:14 GMT
My copy is on Blue Note, you probably never see them in Europe since (I think) it was a US only press (likewise I've never seen a non-Blue Note copy, aside from the simply vinyl reissue) Mine is both in Europe and on Blue Note! And as far as if the record is any good I personally think it's the greatest instrumental album recorded inna Jamdung and it's one of the best regardless of genre. The dubversion is also great. Not classic or even near the level of Man From Wareika but it's still a killer dub album. Anyone that has the Ijahman 12" with the vocals to the Africa tune from Ricos album? I'd love to trade myself a CD-R of it. |
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Post by I on Feb 26, 2006 14:31:53 GMT
'Wareika Dub' isn't even a real album. It was mixed down at Island Studios in St Peters Square in about half an hour. It wasn't intended for release but issued as a bonus for sound systems and journalists. It was just Island hype, a bit of fun. About 200 were pressed.
People seem to have a very high opinion of Rico. He's good but nowhere near Don Drummond and a lesser player than Vin Gordon too. Most of his English produced stuff is pure cheese.
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Post by edward on Feb 26, 2006 15:05:39 GMT
"'Wareika Dub' isn't even a real album. It was mixed down at Island Studios in St Peters Square in about half an hour. It wasn't intended for release but issued as a bonus for sound systems and journalists."
Very strange statement, in my opinion
Not least because the album is 39 minutes long, so those engineers down at Island Studios in St Peters Square were miracle workers if they did it in half an hour!
For the person lucky enough to hold one of the 200 copies I guess it's pretty real! Weren't the very first dub albums back in the early 70s pressed in tiny quantities and intended for sound system use only? Sounds to me like it ticks all the boxes marked "classic dub album". Whether 2 copies, 200, or 2,000,000 were pressed, makes no difference.
My personal opinion is that it's a great companion set to the original release. I bought the Japanese CD release last year, after having had it for some time on a CD-R. I also passed up on one of the original copies on sale for £25 at a record fair last summer. Didn't realise it was that scarce! Lovely stuff though!
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Post by I on Feb 26, 2006 15:15:29 GMT
Half an hour is maybe a bit of an exaggeration. However, it was dubbed for a bit of a laugh; it wasn't intended to be serious. It was just hype for the main set. It was given to journalists like me to help promote 'Man From Wareika'. I've still got my copy. It's real enough but not very good. I think Karl Pitterson did the mix.
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Post by paulk on Feb 27, 2006 2:30:38 GMT
Many Dub albums were mixed in such a short time....and they sound like they were mixed in a rush.
Rico is not a great technical player, but on that album he managed to create a classic.
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Post by lankou2 on Feb 27, 2006 17:27:06 GMT
technique is one thing, soul is another : many JA musicians show ample proof for that! the top notch stuff is when both meet but is it really that often?  in the meantime i'll choose soul over technique every time. |
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Post by E-dogg on Feb 27, 2006 19:34:10 GMT
Well, I haven't heard Wareika yet, but I will agree that soul can trump technique, though ideally I'd like to hear a lot of both in a musician. One musician I like who had virtually zero technical ability was Augustus Pablo, and I think we can (mostly) all agree that he was oozing out the soul vibes and creating real art.
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