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Post by rockstone on Sept 7, 2012 10:53:38 GMT
Tonight on BBC4 the story of one of the world's greatest pop bands at 9.45
Unmissable
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Post by I on Sept 7, 2012 11:31:59 GMT
I prefer 'Here Comes Summer' by Jerry Keller. Basically, I was in my late 20s when these punky, poppy groups arrived on the scene and was heavily involved with black music, so I never had any real interest in these nor The Smiths nor Stiff Little Fingers, Chelsea, The Clash, Scritti Politti. After 1971, I lost interest in rock music and have never regained it since.
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Post by rockstone on Sept 7, 2012 11:41:47 GMT
I presume you mean in your late 20's when the first wave of New York punk arrived Penny. The Undertones have nothing in common with the groups you mention above other than they recorded around the same time. The Undertones are to the late 70's early 80's as Eddie Cochrane and Buddy Holly are to the 50's. Teenage Kicks is in the top 10 greatest pop songs ever.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 7, 2012 11:42:55 GMT
If only they had lost their prick of a singer at first rehearsal they could have been so much better. By the end they were just another tired pop group.
Good to see The Vowel confirm that he is a narrow minded, conservative, musical racist at heart. Only an idiot would deprive himself of all that great music since 1971.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 7, 2012 11:44:46 GMT
Teenage Kicks is a fantastic song mind you. You've Got My Number was even better, some of the other singles are a bit juvenile and noveltyish for my tastes but the early songs had great hooks though!
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Post by I on Sept 7, 2012 14:10:41 GMT
'Teenage Kicks' is alright, a good rocker a sort of Eddie Cochran for kids of the mid-1970s.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 7, 2012 14:18:44 GMT
There is a programme later on BBC4 tonight about music from NI www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b00kl0fzLooks like a total yawn if the blurb is anything to go by. They might be doing well to get an exclusive interview with Gary Moore. |
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Post by rockstone on Sept 7, 2012 15:25:25 GMT
They would be working miracles as Gary has been dead for over a year
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Post by Deleted on Sept 7, 2012 15:33:49 GMT
Which was exactly my (obviously too subtle) point!
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Post by Deleted on Sept 7, 2012 19:44:22 GMT
I prefer 'Here Comes Summer' by Jerry Keller. Basically, I was in my late 20s when these punky, poppy groups arrived on the scene and was heavily involved with black music, so I never had any real interest in these nor The Smiths nor Stiff Little Fingers, Chelsea, The Clash, Scritti Politti. After 1971, I lost interest in rock music and have never regained it since. Reel Similarly I have a friend who has no interest in black music, not Prince Far I nor Shirley Bassey,Hot Chocolate,Little Richard or Charley Pride. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 7, 2012 20:05:43 GMT
Doo Wop?
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Post by baudolino on Sept 7, 2012 20:40:42 GMT
"Tonight on BBC4 the story of one of the world's greatest pop bands at 9.45
Unmissable"
Sorry, all I can see on my television is a programme about the Undertones, who were mere purveyors of two-chord unlistenable juvenile drivel. Perhaps you might tell me the channel I shopuld be watching?
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Post by rockstone on Sept 7, 2012 20:44:08 GMT
I am sure you are intelligent baudolino but you not really being clever here
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Post by baudolino on Sept 7, 2012 20:44:44 GMT
"Only an idiot would deprive himself of all that great music since 1971."
To whom are you referring? Orchestre Baobab? Mahlathini & the Mahotella Queens? Nusrat Fateh Ali Khan? Staff Benda Bilili? Dulce Pontes? Yasmin Levy? Tinariwen? Irakere? Lata Mangeshkar?
Or some tuneless whiners from the British Isles?
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Post by rockstone on Sept 7, 2012 20:49:22 GMT
Any fool who dismisses large swathes of popular music out of hand is just that, a fool. Like or dislike the "tuneless whiners" they were very much part of their time and brought joy to millions of young people who were sick and tired of jaded rock stars who took themselves too seriously. Know your history.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 7, 2012 20:53:52 GMT
"Tonight on BBC4 the story of one of the world's greatest pop bands at 9.45 Unmissable" Sorry, all I can see on my television is a programme about the Undertones, who were mere purveyors of two-chord unlistenable juvenile drivel. Perhaps you might tell me the channel I shopuld be watching? May I suggest Open University as your musical tastes are far too worthy for us mere infantiles to appreciate |
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Post by baudolino on Sept 7, 2012 20:57:38 GMT
Joy to millions? I think not. At best, they were enjoyed by a few hundred thousand souls, of whom I was not one, although I was nineteen years old when "Tennage Kicks" was released. They are not merely contemporaries of mine, my flatmates went on tour with them, so please do not admonish me to "know my history".
I thought their music was vile in 1978, and to my ears posterity has not lent it a more glittering sheen. If you like them - fine. They're your ears. Do NOT, however, presume to rank them in the same bracket as James Brown, Curtis Mayfield, Marvin Gaye or other weiters and performers of pop musdic loved across the world
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Post by Deleted on Sept 7, 2012 21:51:27 GMT
Great,another "how dare you" musical fascist with an I was there story. Welcome aboard, you've got a friend.
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Post by rockstone on Sept 7, 2012 21:53:28 GMT
Where did I compare them to the artists you mentioned baudolino? It would be a boring world if we all liked the same music, and opinions are like arseholes, we all have one.
The only thin I will admonish you for is your musical snobbery. Like most people who were that little bit older in 1976 when the musical revolution hit Britain people like you missed the point. Back in 1978 when Teenage kicks broke on the scene it was a revelation out of war torn Derry. The song is still a foundation stone for young people putting a band together. So keep your prejudices about how a simple little ditty cannot be beautiful out of the argument you are just showing your ignorance.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 7, 2012 23:27:59 GMT
Told you the singer was a prick, this documentary didn't change my mind. You just knew he would decline to take part and he didn't disappoint. John O'Neill summed him up perfectly when he said something along the lines of "Fergal doesn't like music".
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Post by Deleted on Sept 7, 2012 23:29:10 GMT
"Only an idiot would deprive himself of all that great music since 1971." To whom are you referring? Orchestre Baobab? Mahlathini & the Mahotella Queens? Nusrat Fateh Ali Khan? Staff Benda Bilili? Dulce Pontes? Yasmin Levy? Tinariwen? Irakere? Lata Mangeshkar? Or some tuneless whiners from the British Isles? One idiot is enough in this thread thank you! Or do you have trouble reading? |
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Post by consciouspilot on Sept 10, 2012 7:47:27 GMT
A good heart these days is hard to find!
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Post by Deleted on Sept 10, 2012 18:27:58 GMT
That abomination of a song was featured in the programme about NI rock that followed The Undertones doc. Just confirmed him as a grade A prick with the crappest hairdo ever to grace TOTP. And thats saying something!
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Post by Mr Swing Easy on Sept 11, 2012 21:39:42 GMT
one of the best live bands i saw at that time - rainbow finsbury park november 1979. the place was packed out with rows of neo-mods, parkas on, doing their jerky dance moves and the boys gave it everything on stage. 'get over you' was always my favourite one of theirs. T.
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