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Post by Deleted on Feb 6, 2013 15:48:03 GMT
Starting last night, and over the next two nights BBC4 are having a panel discussion all about The Album, and (I think) specifically vinyl, well going by last nights programme anyway which concentrated on Rock. Tonight is Pop, and tomorrow is RnB (which hopefully is everything encompassing Blues, Mowtown etc and not bloody Rhianna etc). Links are here, including Watch It Again for last night - hopefully Youtube will accomodate our non UK members. www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b01qkw54/episodes/guideOn Friday night there is another programme dedicated to the album - When Albums Ruled The World - link here www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b01qhn70 Last nights programme on Rock was ok, if a bit trainspotterish. The programme veered between panel discussion (Danny Baker, Smiths and Blur producer Steven Street, music journalist Kate Mossman, and for no fathomable reason, all round loud mouth and car enthusiast Jeremy Clarkson), and footage/montages of famous albums and their creators (Pink Floyd/DSOTM, Bowie/Ziggy, Various Punk bands/London Calling/NMTB etc), with the guests and host Danny Baker enthusing about their own favourites. Astonishingly, or perhaps refreshingly, who the feck knows, Clarkson was equally vocal in his support for Supertramp as he was for The Clash and The Pistols. Like I said, a bit trainspotterish, but still better than watching whatever else passes as prime time telly these days.
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Post by I on Feb 7, 2013 20:10:06 GMT
The album is white man's luxury, cos Whitey doesn't really like music. I am selling all my albums. The single is the ideal musical vehicle.
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Post by grumpy on Feb 7, 2013 20:29:50 GMT
If you have, and are selling, the double gatefold album of Wee Tam and the Big Huge (not the money-making vandalism of the two albums separately), including the sheet with the poem "The Head", name me a price, Penny. I used to own it but my dear mother came close to being a victim of matricide after she sold it at a church fete whilst I was out of the country. There are certain albums that this whitey would still like to luxuriate in even though he no longer has anything to play them on.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 7, 2013 21:08:21 GMT
The album is white man's luxury, cos Whitey doesn't really like music. I am selling all my albums. The single is the ideal musical vehicle. Reel Haven't you got to pay for something first for it to be a luxury? There is something strangely comforting about knowing that this freeloader doesn't "get" albums.
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Post by I on Feb 7, 2013 21:46:10 GMT
Chris, I haven't owned any Incredible String Band albums since 1974. In the end I usually just like one track on an LP, so I might as well just have singles. Besides, I now pick up CDs like 100 Texas blues in a box set from Fop for £3 or 'The Notorious Byrds Brothers' or 'Music From Big Pink' for a fiver. I still love vinyl but compact discs are so cheap and so full of music I've never heard before that they are irresistible.
By the way Chris, why is it that whenever I write something on this increasingly boring forum is it an excuse for your bigoted Scottish mate to haver a sneer. He's a bit of a sad prick, wouldn't you agree?
At least Steve Rice has now given up this infantile game of verbal tennis
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Post by Deleted on Feb 7, 2013 22:38:09 GMT
Christ, the hipocrisy of the man is astonishing.
I think you'll find that if you make a ridiculous statement I will comment on what you, or anybody else for that matter writes. It just so happens you have made a few recently.
Anyhoo.
Prick, very possibly, although it's a character flaw of mine that I respond to people with like for like . Sad, almost never. Bigoted? There are some people on this forum more bigoted than I am. If you can point out one bigoted comment I have made I will re-evaluate that statement. And asking Grumpy to comment is a bit of a low blow, even for you. He is far too polite and courteous to state his feelings about an individual, well certainly in terms you have asked him to, no matter what he might think privately. And as I have said a hundred times or more, I couldn't give a flying one about what you or anybody else thinks about me. Too many people think it's real life in a forum, it's a cartoon world. Finally, I hope you don't want to make a profit on selling your albums. You'd be lucky to get £5 for both the Byrds and The Band albums you mention above, and for which you paid £10, great albums though they both are. A quick search on the internet would get you them both dirt cheap. But then again you are nothing if not a man out of time.
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Post by I on Feb 8, 2013 10:42:31 GMT
I haven't got these albums you mention. I no longer buy albums as it's too much fuss to play them. I bought both the Byrds and Band sets recently on CD for my own pleasure as I have long liked them and they are not for sale.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 8, 2013 11:01:07 GMT
Silly me, now why would I have thought you had both these albums?
Back to the programmes. They would have been a lot better had Danny Baker not pratttled on so much, the man rants at 100 miles an hour. To be fair, he's a bit of a musical encyclopedia and appeared to be very knowledgeable about all three genres covered. Boy George surprised me, another music fanboy who appeared to have been obsessed by music in his formative years. One of Trevor Nelsons three favourite albums was Low End Theory by Tribe Called Quest. Played it this morning for the firat time in about 10 years, a game changing record.
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Post by I on Feb 8, 2013 12:03:28 GMT
Baker gave it away by admitting the fat slob doesn't dance. How can a man like dance music when he doesn't dance? Neither him, nor Nelson, nor Paris, nor the 41 year old mod boy had a clue about the term R&B. Micah thought it was something to do with the church. Actually, the term was invented by trade mag Billboard as a term for black music, replacing the earlier "Race Music", which by 1945 was seen as racist.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 8, 2013 13:00:53 GMT
What about a person in a wheelchair who can't dance, presumably they can't like dance music either? Looks like I haven't got the monopoly on being a prick.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 8, 2013 18:56:49 GMT
I've really enjoyed these shows,mainly because I sadly always get excited at the sight of records on TV,even if it's someone flicking through a box of LP's in the background on Car Booty or Bargain Hunt I have to rewind it to see if I can make out what's in it, so the sight of someone actually holding up an LP to the camera is televisual heaven!! Had I been on last night I would have picked Maggot Brain by Funkadelic,Innervisions by Stevie Wonder & Wilson Pickett Live In Philadelphia, then I would have chastised Trevor Nelson over the state of his records,shocking. Personally I don't think you could have found a better host than Danny Baker,someone I could listen all day & is incredibly knowledgeable on not only a wide variety of music but football too.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 8, 2013 19:34:04 GMT
Yep, played Innervisions last night Heddwyn and it sounded timeless. Followed that up by playing Superfly this morning, not even Curtis's best album but still a stone cold classic. Maybe unfair, but I don't trust guys like Trevor Nelson, he just strikes me as the kind of guy whose whole "career" was geared towards being involved in the Olympics opening/closing ceremony. Still he picked Superfly so fair play to him. Danny Bakers enthusiasm is infectious but he did seem to want to dominate proceedings somewhat, even to the point of repeating personal experiences in all three programmes. Just a minor gripe - ha! Looking forward to the programme tonight at 9pm, and the Doors making of LA Woman later on.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 8, 2013 23:08:54 GMT
Well what a stinking pile of crap that was, When Dinosaurs Ruled The World more like. Did you know that Lou Reed, Iggy Pop, The Byrds, Neil Young, Bob Marley, Stevie Wonder, Black Sabbath and The Kinks never made an album? And they were just a few I picked off the top of my head. Peter Frampton made an album though! Can anybody name any other song he recorded, apart from that puerile piece of novelty bubblegum pap that is the only song of his that ever gets any airtime, and I don't even know what its bloody called. It soon became apparent that this programme was not about albums of quality or merit(subjective I know, but c'mon!), it was all about quantity, and units shifted and concepts, and albums by bands like Yes that should actually have been books because it was all about the artwork really. Then again, on reflection the BBC never claimed this programme would be anything but that.
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Post by I on Feb 9, 2013 21:46:45 GMT
Well, 'From the Underworld' and 'I Don’t Want Our Loving to Die, come immediately to mind, though this was when he was in a pop group called The Herd. These were two pretty good white pop pieces. I actually love Frampton, just because of the way he was taken the piss out of one of the episodes of Family Guy.
Danny Baker is actually exactly what he seems, a decent, down to earth guy. I had no quarrels with him at the NMe and would rather watch him presenting rock programmes than that Wigan wank Stewart Maconie or the fatuous Paul Morley. I didn't see the when albums ruled the world show but from Gripe's description imagine it was made up of Fleetwood Mac, Pink Floyd, The Eagles, Fleetwood Mac with Stevie and Lindsey, Fleetwood Mac and other similar MOR fodder for people who do not like music.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 10, 2013 1:36:04 GMT
No Morley or Maconie. but Parsons, CSM and the tiresome Mick Wall were all spouting off. Nick Kent was missing from that programme, but popped up on the next one about Pink Floyd making Wish You Were Here. I don't know why I torture myself watching guff like the Pink Floyd programme, possibly to confirm to myself that groups like this are as crap as I imagine them to be, still never heard one of their albums thankfully. You only need to listen to them speak to know they are just failed accountants who can strum a guitar.
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Post by mmike56 on Feb 10, 2013 9:16:59 GMT
Peter Frampton with early Umble Pie with the late great Steve Marriot
Fleewood Mac circa. Peter A Green/ Jeremy Spencer/ Danny Kirwin ONLY.
I admit to luving early Pink Floyd.
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Post by Mr Swing Easy on Feb 10, 2013 12:56:48 GMT
Surely it is 'Baby I love Your Way', Sean?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 10, 2013 13:01:53 GMT
Fuctifino!
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