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Post by Mrs Trellis on Mar 21, 2009 11:56:25 GMT
In this month's Record Collector Magazine, they start a list of what they consider the 75 rarest and most collectable Ska & Reggae LP's released in the UK in the 1960's. www.recordcollectormag.com/articles/article-detail/540For anyone interested, Part 1 is in this months issue and Part 2 will be next month. The most expensive LP in Part 1 is V/A - Jump Jamaica Way (R&B) which they value a mint copy would be worth £400-
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Post by rasadam on Mar 21, 2009 12:57:01 GMT
anyone a subscriber and can repost the whole article? a
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Post by mattyjay on Mar 21, 2009 23:15:35 GMT
The most expensive LP in Part 1 is V/A - Jump Jamaica Way (R&B) which they value a mint copy would be worth £400- Once again, nowhere near the most expensive. The Maytals album on Ska-Beat went for over £700 the last time a decent copy was generally available, and I should imagine Jump Jamaica Way is rarer, especially with the Ska-Beat label (as opposed to R&B Discs). I'd love to see this list... Matty
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Post by Deleted on Mar 21, 2009 23:41:47 GMT
What people should remember is that the prices are a 'guide' & are not set in stone,something Record Collector openly admits. Either way,articles like that always make me behave like a 9 year old & imagine I'm at a car boot sale & somebody has a box of records,'How much are the LP's' I ask, '50p each or 3 for £1' comes the repy,then when I start flicking there are all these mega rare ska LP's.What a sad little individual I am.
Adam,I'm not a subscriber but I do have the magazine that I've finished with,if you pm your address I'll happily send it you.
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Post by wellcharge on Mar 22, 2009 4:10:35 GMT
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Post by doorpeeper on Mar 22, 2009 9:18:11 GMT
All the credits will be at the end of part two. And I might add before certain people jump on me, I didn't select the albums or suggest the prices.
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Post by I on Mar 22, 2009 13:18:13 GMT
The people who run Record Collector know very little about the value of reggae records. A few years ago they were pricing all UK Studio One red and white singles at £10 apiece, except for 'I Stand Predominate', which because it was by The Wailers was valued at £50. UK blue Coxsons were similarly priced. Then they discovered that Prince Buster albums on Blue Beat and Fab were rare, so sets like 'I Feel The Spirit' and 'It's Burkes Law' became premium items, then it was The Skatalites' 'Ska Boo Ba Da', then LPs on Rio and Blue Cat, Ska Beat and Amalgamated. Current items they know nothing of include the Charles Ross album on Sugar, the original copy of The Royals 'Pick Up The Pieces' with the green cover, Yabby You's 'King Tubby's Prophecy Of Dub', Dennis Brown's 'Deep Down', Charles Collin's white label Delroy Wilson LP, Third World's Delroy Wilson double LP featuring early "dubplate" style mixes by Prince Jammy and many more.
Can I reiterate Adam's plea. Or can somebody please post the list.
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Post by rasadam on Mar 22, 2009 13:39:55 GMT
thnx for the offer i don't need it expensively mailed across the pond. if you know someone w/ a scanner they could post it as a photo or pdf. chrs. a
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Post by nickbug on Mar 22, 2009 15:37:36 GMT
Right, seeing as I haven't contributed here for ages I'll make up for it by doing a bit of a list from the article (which was compiled by Ian Shirley) and then you can all argue the toss about the values they have given This is the order they come in (each album has a paragraph or two about it but I'm not typing that as well -- although if anyone wants to know what they wrote about a specific album let me know and I can type it out); OWEN GRAY - OWEN GRAY SINGS - STARLITE £120 V/A - JAMAICAN BLUES - BLUE BEAT £300 DERRICK MORGAN - STEP FORWARD - ISLAND £300 PRINCE BUSTER - I FEEL THE SPIRIT - BLUE BEAT £120 MAYTALS - NEVER GROW OLD - SKA BEAT - £200 DELROY WILSON - I SHALL NOT REMOVE - R&B £250 V/A - AFTER SUNSET - DECCA - £150 V/A - FLY FLYING SKA - BLUE BEAT £300 V/A - JUMP JAMAICA WAY - R&B £400 V/A - THIS IS BLUEBEAT - ISLAND £200 DERRICK HARRIOTT - BEST OF - ISLAND £120 PRINCE BUSTER - SKA LIP SOUL - BLUE BEAT £100 PRINCE BUSTER - IT'S BURKE'S LAW - BLUE BEAT £175 V/A - GAY FEET - DOCTOR BIRD £300 V/A - PAIN IN MY BELLY - BLUE BEAT £250 LAUREL AITKEN - SKA WITH LAUREL - RIO £200 MAYTALS - THE SENSATIONAL MAYTALS - DOCTOR BIRD £200 V/A - SKA BOO DA BA - DOCTOR BIRD £250 V/A - SKA AT THE JAMAICAN PLAYBOY CLUB - ISLAND £400 LAUREL AITKEN - SAYS FIRE - DOCTOR BIRD £200 KEN BOOTHE - MR ROCK STEADY - STUDIO ONE £200 DESMOND DEKKER - 007 SHANTY TOWN - DOCTOR BIRD £150 ALTON ELLIS - SINGS ROCK AND SOUL - COXSONE £150 GAYLADS - ROCKSTEADY - COXSONE £150 DERRICK HARRIOTT - ROCKSTEADY PARTY £300 HEPTONES - SAME - STUDIO ONE £150 HILTONAIRES - BEST OF - COXSONE £100 JACKIE MITTOO - IN LONDON - COXSONE £150 PARAGONS - ON THE BEACH - DOCTOR BIRD £160 PRINCE BUSTER - WHAT A HARD MAN FE DEAD - BLUE BEAT £300 PRINCE BUSTER - ON TOUR - BLUE BEAT £100 SKATALITES - SKA AUTHENTIC - STUDIO ONE £30 SOUL BROTHERS - HOT SHOT SKA - COXSONE £200 SOUL BROTHERS - CARIB SOUL - COXSONE £120 PRINCE BUSTER - JUDGE DREAD - BLUE BEAT £100 SOUL VENDORS - ON TOUR - COXSONE £300 TERMITES - DO THE ROCK STEADY - STUDIO ONE £100 V/A - GET READY ROCK STEADY - COXSONE £140 V/A - GREATEST JAMAICAN BEAT - DOCTOR BIRD £150 V/A - SKA AU GO GO - COXSONE £200 V/A - SKA TO ROCKSTEADY - STUDIO ONE £250 LAUREL AITKEN - HIGH PRIEST OF REGGAE - PAMA £200 That's it until next month's issue.
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Post by The Cloverdale Kid on Mar 22, 2009 16:26:15 GMT
SKA AT THE JAMAICAN PLAYBOY CLUB - ISLAND £400 I guess the old adage is true- rare does not mean good
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Post by DJ Greedy G on Mar 22, 2009 20:59:59 GMT
Lists like these are a load of bollocks often put together by people who know bugger all about the music.
Let myself or Jah Reel compile articles for mags and tell Record Collector to leave Mike Atherton and Michael De Koenigh to their own devices, as they said over on the Pama Forum that their articles for said mag are often tampered with.
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Post by danielisaac on Mar 23, 2009 0:50:04 GMT
Man!! I used to own "Ska at the Jamaica Playboy Club"! I picked it up in a shop for about $10 US. The only worthwhile thing about it was seeing Millie dressed in a Playboy Bunny outfit. I think I sold the record off to somebody a few years ago for about $25.
Can anybody provide a tracklisting for this LP from the list? I remember seeing it on EBay several years ago...the one and only time I had ever seen or heard of it until looking at the Record Collector post tonight:
V/A - JAMAICAN BLUES - BLUE BEAT £300
peace.
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Post by rasadam on Mar 23, 2009 2:00:48 GMT
www.roots-archives.com/release/5064Island LP #ILP 930 1966 Record date : 1966 Album style : ska, solo vocal, group vocal, instrumental Playlist : Millie Small - Be My Guest Carlos Malcolm - Bonanza Ska The Maytals - Six And Seven Books Of Moses Jackie Edwards - Sea Cruise Keith Stewart - Rub Up And Push Up Millie Small - Carry Go Bring Come Millie Small & Jimmy Cliff - Hey Boy Hey Girl The Blues Busters - Wings Of A Dove Top Grant - River Bank Coverley Roy Panton & Millie Small - We'll Meet Jimmy Cliff - King Of Kings Tony Washington - Lavender Blue Ernest Ranglin - Exodus Ska
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Post by danielisaac on Mar 23, 2009 2:50:43 GMT
How about a tracklisting for "Jamaican Blues" Blue Beat, Various Artists, listed as being worth 300 pounds?
That's the mystery one I'm looking for....saw it once on EBay, have never seen or heard of it since...what tunes are on this one?
peace.
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Post by kalcidis on Mar 23, 2009 7:35:01 GMT
From Popsike (that has an auction saved where the album went for $568). Sir Coxsone's first lp in England 1961 - ALL STARS JAMAICAN BLUES on Blue Beat (BB LP801). Tracks are: AUBREY Adams - Stew Peas & cornflakes Derrick Harriot - Answer Me My Darling Clancy Eccles - River Jordan Clue J - Salt Lane Shuffle Charmers - Jeanie Girl Don Drummond - Don Cosmic Roland Alphonso - Ocean 11 Jiving Juniors - Over The River Alton & Eddy - My Heaven Don Drummond - Just Cool Chuck & Dobby - Du-du-wap Lascelles Perkins - Lonely Moments
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Post by doorpeeper on Mar 23, 2009 8:50:36 GMT
The thing about the Ska At The Playboy Club that hasn't been mentioned is that it was never commercially available. It was sold or given away (don't know which) only at the Jamaican Playboy Club hence the high price mainly due to Island completists and/or rare ska album collectors. Presumably Blackwell was a member and had them pressed up and shipped out as an advertising tool for his other records.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 23, 2009 9:29:15 GMT
The problem with ska & reggae records on popsike is that it still holds any auctions that have been hijacked by fake bidders & as it doesn't show the sellers or bidders id it's impossible to know whether it's a true price or not,for an example search for the Rudies' Brixton Rocket & you'll see the same copy on there 2 or 3 times where it's been hijacked at least once then relisted & prices over £500 which is about 5 times it's normal price. Record Collector are on a hiding to nothing really as records are only worth what somebody wants to pay for them & not what it says in a book but they just try & offer a guide,personally I take no notice of any prices in their Price Guide & like most experienced sellers & collectors rely on past experience/sales. The prices they state are for Mint condition sleeves & records,the LP's in their list are hard enough to find anyway but in Mint condition virtually impossible so if one did come up for sale you can imagine those prices would be blown out of the water.
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Post by Nicholas on Mar 23, 2009 12:16:21 GMT
Sir Coxsone's first lp in England 1961 - ALL STARS JAMAICAN BLUES on Blue Beat (BB LP801). Tracks are: AUBREY Adams - Stew Peas & cornflakes Derrick Harriot - Answer Me My Darling Clancy Eccles - River Jordan Clue J - Salt Lane Shuffle Charmers - Jeanie Girl Don Drummond - Don Cosmic Roland Alphonso - Ocean 11 Jiving Juniors - Over The River Alton & Eddy - My Heaven Don Drummond - Just Cool Chuck & Dobby - Du-du-wap Lascelles Perkins - Lonely Moments Same tracks as "All Star Top Hits" (Coxsone Records, JA), which is currently available on repress... N.
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Post by hamburger on Mar 23, 2009 12:36:00 GMT
i once had this "Jump jamaica way" lp, maybe it was a repress ? Not that i was too impressed with this record ............ ;D
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Post by gabriel on Mar 24, 2009 22:08:08 GMT
The Ernest Ranglin cut of "Exodus Ska" on the Playboy LP is pretty good. Lot of guitar feeling
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Post by ringo on Mar 30, 2009 9:41:39 GMT
Charles Collin's white label Delroy Wilson LP, Third World's Delroy Wilson double LP featuring early "dubplate" style mixes by Prince Jammy Observer Don't know that Charles Collins LP Penny, any more details? Love that Third World Jammys LP:
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Post by dubbindub on Mar 30, 2009 19:00:31 GMT
The fact that the Delroy album was released on Third World makes me think that it is not that rare for no other reason then I remember seeing records on that label in record shops in Ireland years ago. Am I mistaken?
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Post by skahovia on Mar 30, 2009 20:25:32 GMT
I have the Delroy album, and never considered it rare as I'm sure it sold well at the time. If not, it should have, because it's mighty fine! Ditto with Deep Down....
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Post by Disco Bum on Mar 31, 2009 11:26:05 GMT
I have the Delroy album, and never considered it rare as I'm sure it sold well at the time. If not, it should have, because it's mighty fine! Fabulous set, selector's choice for sure, some of those dubplate-style mixes were recently reissued on Ja. Striker Lee 7's.
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Post by aka_richie on Mar 31, 2009 11:51:12 GMT
the joke is that if you played 'jump jamaica way' or 'jamaican blues' to 99.9% of jamaican black people or anyone who say's they like reggae, and told them you paid those prices for it. i think a] they would turn around around and say that's not reggae, and b] they would laugh themselves to death!
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Post by I on Mar 31, 2009 12:58:28 GMT
I doubt that the Count pressed up more than a thousand copies of the Delroy double and probably threw 400 of these on a skip. So there might bee perhaps 600 of these sacattered around the world.
'Deep Down' was distributed by Gussie. I saw five copies arrive at my local record store, Daddy Kool in Hanway Street. I think Hawkeye and possibly Lasco had copies too. There were very few copies pressed. Within a month, it was not possible to buy a copy.
Meanwhile, Desmond Dekker's '007' album wsas prominent not only in local record shops but also stores like Musicland and All Change throughout the late '60s, while Sterns in Tottenham Court Road had all the Prince Buster albums on Fab and Blue Beat from the late 1960s right up to 1979. I could have bought any of the Fab albums for £1.50 at any time in the 1970s. Island and Trojan records were better off and had more sales potential, so could press up more copies of their albums than singleton Jamaican youth like Augustus Clarke and Vivian Jackson.
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Post by skahovia on Mar 31, 2009 15:03:05 GMT
I doubt that the Count pressed up more than a thousand copies of the Delroy double 'Deep Down' was distributed by Gussie. I saw five copies arrive at my local record store, Daddy Kool in Hanway Street. I think Hawkeye and possibly Lasco had copies too. There were very few copies pressed. Within a month, it was not possible to buy a copy. I could have bought any of the Fab albums for £1.50 at any time in the 1970s. I Observer That's a surprise.... My failing memory wont let me remember where I bought them, but likely outlets were Black Wax Mail Order, or a guy called "Shine" who used to sell records in Reading in the mid 70's (Unsure of his suppliers!).. However, I distinctly remember buying The Buster LP's Tutti Frutti and Big 5 in HMV Oxford Street in about 1979...
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Post by portojam on Mar 31, 2009 15:28:12 GMT
For anyone who's interested 'Jump Jamaica Way' label scans
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Post by 2toneted on Apr 1, 2009 4:14:20 GMT
I have Jump Jamaica Way on a Coxsone label repress from the early 90's. Same track list except they spelled Lester Sterling's name correctly.
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Post by danielisaac on Apr 1, 2009 12:44:04 GMT
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