Re: Albert Malawi - Lonely Walk « Result #3 Yesterday at 10:30pm »
It just turned up this morning Dudley, truly a Killer for sure.Do you happen to know any other vocals over KTWDub Turbo riddims or any background on this 12"?
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Re: King Tubby /Clancy Eccles Dub « Result #4 Yesterday at 9:11pm »
Agree with yo mr rice and others. Not usually overly fussed by lps but my good lady got me this for christmas. A beautiful demonstration of the versitility of tubbys. Lovely photos as well.
Re: Rowland S Howard R.I.P « Result #6 Yesterday at 7:45pm »
Rowland S. Howard, the Australian guitarist who played with Nick Cave in both the Boys Next Door and the influential post-punk outfit the Birthday Party, died from liver cancer this morning, December 30. He was 50. (Via Billboard.)
Since breaking with the Birthday Party in 1983, Howard has collaborated with artists including Lydia Lunch, Nikki Sudden of Swell Maps, and Henry Rollins. His most recent solo album, Pop Crimes, was released in October. For more on Howard, read this in-depth obituary from Australia's The Age. http://www.theage.com.au/national/rowlan....91230-ljxn.html
Re: albums of the year. « Result #8 Yesterday at 6:11pm »
quelle surprise!! some good albums in the top5 mind you
Animal Collective top 2009 critics' 'poll of polls' 'Merriweather Post Pavilion' named Number One in annual HMV round-up December 29, 2009 The band's 'Merriweather Post Pavilion' is Number One in the retailer's "poll of poll" which collates the results of 34 end of year polls into one list. The HMV top ten is as follows:
1. Animal Collective – 'Merriweather Post Pavilion' 2. Yeah Yeah Yeahs – 'It's Blitz' 3. The xx – 'The xx' 4. Dirty Projectors – 'Bitte Orca' 5. Grizzly Bear – 'Veckatimest' 6. The Horrors – 'Primary Colours' 7. Fever Ray – 'Fever Ray' 8. Florence and the Machine – 'Lungs' 9. Bat For Lashes – 'Two Suns' 10. Wild Beasts – 'Two Dancers'
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Re: kyle sicarius "tribulation" « Result #9 Yesterday at 5:01pm »
Heard it, but don't own it yet (even though Slimmah are from here in Amsterdam), Solid. Big tune. Do have their Lyrical Benjie 45 Sit N Wonda (Roots Tribe). He's from King Shiloh sound and that's a big tune too in my book.
I must admit that I didn't buy regular issues of The Beat over the past few years because their reggae coverage mainly consisted of the "year in review" in dancehall or many boring pages devoted to reviews of festivals that I didn't attend. However, for many years - up until the early 2000s - The Beat was a great magazine. Special mention to Michael Turner's "Reggae Obsession" column, which was always a good read. Sad to see the magazine go - looks like they won't be carrying on with an online version, either.
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Re: Top 50 Modern Roots 45s of 2009 « Result #15 Yesterday at 1:16pm »
Yes ian, I didn't want to include too many tunes on the same riddim, so just picked the Lutan on Indiscretion, but yes, love the Richie and Capleton too. Also the Cure, Busy Signal's and Assassin.
That three recent No Doubt riddims get lots of spins here the last few weeks. Like Ghetto and Sweet the best. The latter being very soft, but with some lovely lovers-vocal efforts by Daville, Beres and Etana and two other nice ones by Ginjah and the Stevie Face in the above list. On Ghetto I also rate the Konshens and Richie Spice. Didn't get the Chuck Fenda myself, but did get Alborosie, Anthony B, Lutan Fyah and Etana too. On the Rocksteady I got Capleton, Cocoa Tea, I Wayne and Fantan Mojah next to the Etana in the list.
Thanks for the tip on that Floyd West. Unknown to me too, nice tune!
Another tune I wish that would have appeared on 7" is Tarrus Riley's Living the Life of a Gun, opening track of his new album. Such a big tune!
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Re: Top 50 Modern Roots 45s of 2009 « Result #16 Yesterday at 12:28pm »
Good list as always Marc. Some I know and some I'll have to investigate further.
I've been enjoying the Ghetto rhythm on No Doubt label recently, so to your choice, I'd also add Richie Spice - Who Dat, Konshens - Insanity and Chuck Fenda - I Am For The Poor.
JukeBoxx label have also been consistent this year, and I've been enjoying Richie Spice - Soothing Sound and Capleton - Acres to add to your choice for the Secrets / Indiscretions riddim.
Also here's a 7" I picked up recently that I've been giving a few spins to, by someone I'd not come across before, and it's got a slightly different, even jazzy feel to it. Floyd West - Reasons (High Range) - (Jail Time riddim) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Hw61SC6zes
oh yes, Gappy Ranks - Mountain Top came out last year! But yes I totally agree with Marc's selections that the Courtney John and Tarrus Riley releases on Peckings were the best two from that label this year, and closely followed by Gappy's Turn The Stereo On (if only it had come out on 7!)
Most of the tunes you list BMC are relicks of old rhythms, not that it is a bad thing, but it does say a lot for the lack of creativity in current Jamaican music. Probably due to the fact that producers are finding it difficult to make ventures worthwhile. Most of the good music you rightly say are creeated by EU or Japanese enthusiast looking for a particular sound which in the main is revisionist.
I find it interesting Mick, that most JA productions in this list are no relicks, but original riddims (not ones you'd rate I think, they're mainly the softer kind that I like a lot too like Corleone's but many here don't, but that aside) while many of the EU productions are relicks. Could be I just didn't get the JA relicks this year, but I usually don't keep track of what I didn't get.
A quick scan gives:
JA productions on relicks in this list:
#9, 47, 48
EU productions on relicks:
#2, 6, 8, 11, 13, 17, 20, 23, 26, 34, 38, 41
That there's more care put inot the EU ones I fully agree with. Don't have the proof, but it certainly sounds like it.
Hope you'll find some tunes in there you rate. I can easily put a list up of the ones you can skip knowing your taste a bit (all Corleon's for starters, the ones on No Doubt label too etc).
Re: Top 50 Modern Roots 45s of 2009 « Result #18 Yesterday at 11:43am »
Last year was a tight one for me so I didn't buy as much tunes. In saying that there was not much out there that made me want to stretch myself. Most of the tunes you list BMC are relicks of old rhythms, not that it is a bad thing, but it does say a lot for the lack of creativity in current Jamaican music. Probably due to the fact that producers are finding it difficult to make ventures worthwhile. Most of the good music you rightly say are creeated by EU or Japanese enthusiast looking for a particular sound which in the main is revisionist. I suppose these are the tunes I myself am attracted to. The irie ites relick "Mr. Officer" with Lorenzo & Chesidek, not on your list, would be a fine example. Thanks for your list though BMC I will check these out though funds allowing. No matter how bad things get there are always a few gems to be found but it really is getting harder as last year is the worst year for me with regards to qulaitry tunes.
...and in Marc's list last year (I hope so anyway).
Uhm, well, ahum, honousty time, don't think I even know the tune, Joe.
That could mean it didn't appear at my usual store (it's not there now) or that it did and the samples didn't do it for me. No idea, but will certainly check it out. Cheers.
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Top 50 Modern Roots 45s of 2009 « Result #25 on Dec 29, 2009, 11:03pm »
Another year behind us and another year that again lead to numerous discussion on the current output of JA. Especially the dancehall side of things gets a lot of criticism for the direction where it is going with the non-JA influences of r&b, rap and techno. I also do not favor the route it is taking, but am not too worried about it to start 'dancehall is dead' kinda talk. There apparentely is an audience for it, artists have sold out shows all over the world, so I guess we're looking at JA-dancehall 2009 stylee. Hopefully 2010 brings back more of the pounding bass in the riddims. Personally I do rate some of the current output in the genre though, specifically Busy Signal and Mavado, but not even close to enough for an end-of-year list. That's different for modern roots 45s (yep, still buy vinyl in these times!) from 2009. There has been plenty lovely stuff out there again, though most of my preferred riddims and tunes this year come from the EU & UK. JA had some nice rootsy riddim, but I feel it's less than in previous years and a smaller percentage I rated enough to buy. Not gonna go into a 'oh-see-what-became-of-reggae'-blah, cause there's simply still nuff nuff good stuff out there and with the worldwide output combined I could easily come up with a top 50 modern roots 45s list again, just like last year.
The order is kinda momentarily, if I was to make the same list tomorrow, it'd probably differ at points, but that aside. Here's 50 tunes making 2009 nice enough for me again. This is obviously a personal preferences, add to it with your recommended tunes for the year to make it all more complete.
My wish for the new year musically is mainly more bass(lines), more positivity and more quality control instead of releasing every trial of a riddim or voicing : higher standards. All the best for 2010 for all reggae-massive worldwide!
BMC's Top 50 Modern Roots 45s 2009
Titles as: "Artist - Title (Label - Riddim)".
01) Fu-Steps - Wicked Men (Vibes Creator) 02) Courtney John - Lucky Man (Peckings) 03) Don Carlos & Million Stylez - World Crisis (Ink A Link) 04) Jah Faith - No Bother Grumble (Jan-Disc) 05) Tarrus Riley & Alaine - Forever More (Don Corleon) 06) Busy Signal - Uniform Bad Bwoy (Maximum Sound - Praise Jahovia) 07) Lyrical Benjie - Sit N Wonda (Roots Tribe) 08) Prezident Brown - Rasta Rock (African Beat - Bubbler) 09) Anthony Cruz - Woman 24-7 (Shan Shan) 10) Alaine - Without You (Don Corleon - Changes) 11) Million Stylez & Joey Fever - Young Gunz (Necessary Mayhem - Come Down) 12) Tarrus Riley - Young Heart Reminiscing (Peckings) 13) Mykal Rose - Hypocrites Warning (Heartical - Tonight) 14) Lutan Fyah - Nuh Talk (Juke Boxx - Indiscretion) 15) Turbulence - Lovely Days (Roots Survival - Ras In) 16) Lutan Fyah - No Tribulation (Pow Pow - Respond) 17) Luciano - Invasion (Maximum Sound - I Know My Herbs) 18) Peter Spence - Thanks And Praises (Lockdown - Sweet Jamaica) 19) Stevie Face - Proverbs 6 (No Doubt - Sweet) 20) YT, Million Stylez, Tenor Fly, Blackout JA & Mr Williamz - Dubplate (Necessary Mayhem - Rumours) 21) Jah Cure - Never Find (Don Corleon - Changes) 22) Luciano & Freddie McGregor - Night After Night (Big Ship - New Chapter) 23) Sizzla - Revolution (Irie Ites - Strange Things) 24) Peetah Heritage - Jesse James (Maximum Sound - Vineyard Town) 25) I-Eye - What A Day (Shengen Clan) 26) Admiral Tibet - Never Stop Trying (Luv Messenger - The Whip) 27) Petah Morgan feat Busy Signal - Unfair (No Doubt - Ghetto) 28) Anthony B & Chezidek - Better Hafi Come (Maximum Sound - Matches Lane) 29) AmP & Echo Ranks - Mr Warmonger (AMP) 30) Solo Banton - Talk To Me (Maffi) 31) I Wayne - What Will They Do (Fresh Ear - Relationship) 32) Queen Omega - Jah Dawta (Bombist - Soprano) 33) Lutan Fyah - Real Rasta (Jam' Strong - Stronga) 34) Lukie D - Send Dem Come (Maximum Sound - Praise Jahovia) 35) Etana - Badmind (No Doubt - Rock Steady) 36) Kenny Knots - Unbreakable (Roots Garden - People) 37) Tarrus Riley - Cold Kisses (Don Corleon) 38) Gappy & Nerious - Soul Rebel (Peckings - Soul Rebel) 39) Chezidek - War Monger (Irie Ites - Only Solution) 40) Prince Theo - Chant Dem Down (High Fly Music - Spread Dat Love) 41) Ziggi - Joker Smoker (Smoke In The Air) (Necessary Mayhem - Joker Smoker) 42) Million Stylez - Born In The System (Bassrunner - Prison Break) 43) Jah Mali - Serious Question (Roots Survival - Ras In) 44) Turbulence - Live Good And Prosper (Redbud - Prosper) 45) Ras McBean & Queen Omega - No Time To Waste (Greatest Friends - Music) 46) Joey Fever - Back With A Blast (Fast Forward - Love My) 47) Tamlins - Send Them Come (Shengen Clan) 48) Fantan Mojah - Chalice (Fire Ball - Rocksteady) 49) Queen Omega - Good Canabis (Special Delivery - Je T'Aime) 50) Lutan Fyah - Mr Outlaw (Blenders Finest - Oooh)
Re: King Tubby on the board ? « Result #26 on Dec 29, 2009, 10:06pm »
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Re: The Vegas speaks his mind « Result #34 on Dec 28, 2009, 6:22pm »
Well lankou, you should know by now that since usually on these sites most people are with you on the dislike of modern dancehall, I love to put at least one counterview in at times for some well needed balance, even though we've been there more than desired already haha (well, not really counter, if you look at it we both want the same thing, it's just that your analysis of the situation doesn't always match mine or others' that don't post here). Otherwise it gets so one-sided and almost reads like facts, what I don't like.
Some last comments then:
> i've seen dramatic changes in your mixes material, though
I have an idea what you mean by this, but not sure, care to ellaborate?
> Not surprising that your student can identify that, really !
He's capable of listening to the music under the vocals too you know. It was both beat and vocal-approach he noticed when listening (must admit though that I told him to listen past the absence of raps in the tunes, so he didn't go in 'neutral').
> Obviously ? NOt so !
Yes, mostly it is. Usually quite easy to recognize as JA dancehall I'd say, due to where it came from. Hard to imagine a US rapper rhyming on all these JA riddims. Can't see it happen, there's still a dancehall touch to many of 'm imo. There are pure R&B-like riddims and tunes for which it'd work, true, Konshen's Winner being an example. But quite some of the riddims still have a somewhat dancehall-basis with more techno-ish influences (Genius uses that recipe a lot) that I for one don't see as hiphop and two I can see how it was developped by combining various styles, incl. dancehall. Often don't rate 'm, but that's a different issue. Mavado's latest album is a real dancehall album in my book for instance.
> and now the percentage has fully grown after some five years.
That's where I'd say: not so yet, but true, going there. Makes one wonder where it'll go: further towards US styles or back to more pure dancehall. Let's hope for the latter.
> Techniques Jr 's European Swing
Funny; not one I really rate and one that with that clapping sound reminds me of Pure Music's Red Bull & Guiness from 2006 a bit too much.
> To me 90's DH was like JA 's answer to punk and hardcore. It's not so anymore.
How nice, ending with something I can agree with.
Amen.
Edit: Was thinking about it a bit further tonight (think it's interesting to see the trend of more protest against it on the one hand and still huge popularity and sold-out venues for the voicers of the riddims in question like Mavado all over the world); I do see your point on the loss of the identity, specialty of dancehall as something different. Gaps are closing between JA styles and more mainstream styles with no real attention for the quality to make a difference. Still, apparantely it does still work for the producers to keep on going in this direction and audience keeps on coming, so there's a crowd in for it, whether that's a whole new crowd I don't know.
R I P - Dread Lester « Result #35 on Dec 28, 2009, 6:11pm »
It is with great sadness that I have to report that a modest and understated member of the reggae community in the UK, Dread Lester aka Lester Samuels, passed away in the early hours of Monday 27th December 2009.
Lester was a man of great significance within the community of Wolverhampton, the man at the helm of the Sam Sharpe Music Project which helped many a youth such as me get into music. In his early days he worked alongside Ras Muffet in their studio in Blakenhall, Wolverhampton. He brought to the fore and supported many artists including Beverley Knight, Rasheda, Aisha, the Wonder Stuff and Heps. He was also a skilled soundman, working with his spar Archie D to defeat many a sound man - witnessed recently at Keats Wine Bar, Park Royal in 2008.
To me he was a great friend, a mentor and a figure a guidance. Wolverhampton is wounded by his loss. He leaves behind his wife Shirley and his children.
Re: The Vegas speaks his mind « Result #36 on Dec 28, 2009, 5:21pm »
Of course, what i wrote is entirely biased, it's all up to my own tastes - and the growing number of disatisfied fans'. I have been a fan of dh music for over 20 years, regardless of the trends. Most of what i hear today does nothing for ME. There's no point in developing a neutral analysis on musical matters. Only musicians with a musical approach are entitled to do so, imho. I am not going to harp on once again in one of our usual (but nonetheless correct - i've seen dramatic changes in your mixes material, though ! ) disagreements, but i just can't agree on that one when you say "It's clearly developped from dancehall of yesteryears with new elements added". BUT how many totally obliterated ? The only noticeable caribbean presence is in the vocal styles, that clearly don't sound US. Not surprising that your student can identify that, really ! "so it's obviously rooted in JA music and not a new style that appeared out of the blue". Obviously ? NOt so ! And i never implied that it 'd grown out of the blue, there has been a gradual influx of purely US vibes in the riddims and now the percentage has fully grown after some five years. I don't think it can go much further, but maybe it will, who am i to say. I believe the developing trend will go towards euro influences, especially european electro. In the past US influences were cleverly digested into something new, not so now, imho. Besides, several of the main hc dancehall producers who proposed something fresh do production work in the US and no longer provide anything at home, apart from some obvious ripoffs (not something unusual in reggae music !) by younger producers. It happens with the Kellys, Lenky, for instance, real trendsetters... Still, once in a while, i enjoy a current dancehall riddim, like Techniques Jr 's European Swing, for instance, those which carry a strong beat, which isn't the norm today, as that music seems to cater for people who grew up on mainstream rap -r&b that has favoured slow grooves for a long time. I am not part of that generation, i simply grew up on fast kick ass styles. To me 90's DH was like JA 's answer to punk and hardcore. It's not so anymore.
Sean Paul's last release, The Trinity, hit about 3 million in sales. His current set has yet to crack 100,000.
Sad number for real. But isn't that a general trend of huge drops in sales, combined with the usual dropback in figures after a highpoint in a career? I haven't heard Imperial Blaze, don't think he has had a big hit from that one either, what ofcourse usually helps in increasing sales. I don't know if he used common JA riddims on his latest or own productions or so, so hard to comment on it and predict whether it is in fact quality that caused this drop. Would be interesting to see other big sellers (any genre) of the time of The Trinity and their numbers now. Still, that 3 million was ofcourse exceptional. Doubt that any artist that'll follow the route some would like to see (older routines, real instruments, original roots reggae etc.) will come close to that 100,000, so still a big seller in perspective.
Do notice though that I also refer in the above post to the quality as a problem, as opposed to the fact of adding rap influences to dancehall. For me there's a difference there.
'It ultimately doesn't matter what I like/dislike: all that Jamaican music has to do is please the Jamaican audience, and the rest is added dividend...'
And in the meantime, it looks as if I will be able to attend Rebel Salute!
Lucky you! Nice one. The line-up Sista Irie posted over at snwmf is pretty damn good!:
Author: Sista Irie (---.austin.res.rr.com) Date: 12-20-09 11:55
Here's the latest on RS line-up- please remember artist line-up is subject to change, additions and otherwise
Rebel Salute, Port Kaiser's Sports Arena Alligator Pond- St. Elizabeth January 16th
Steel Pulse Tony Rebel Barrington Levy Queen Ifrica Jah Cure Capelton Tarrus Riley Admiral Tibet Freddie McGregor Etana Alaine Richie Spice I-Octane Singing Melody I-Wayne Gramps Morgan URoy Junior Murvin Ronnie Davis & Itals Leroy Gibbons Pinchers General Trees Anthony Malvo Peter Metro Lady Saw Assasin (aka Sasco- new name) Romain Virgo Noddy Virtue Bugle Junior X Ras Penco Chevaughn and C Sharp Hezron Charly Blacks Influence Stevie Face Tyrical Stream Khago Brown Sugar Princess Tia Omari
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Re: The Vegas speaks his mind « Result #38 on Dec 28, 2009, 3:07pm »
Sean Paul's last release, The Trinity, hit about 3 million in sales. His current set has yet to crack 100,000.
My point being the fickle nature of world-pop interest in JA dancehall, and when the next 'big' seller in this music is Matisyahu...well, it's not as if one has as compensatory solace the pleasing quality of current releases.
But hey, as I've intoned a thousand times, 'It ultimately doesn't matter what I like/dislike: all that Jamaican music has to do is please the Jamaican audience, and the rest is added dividend...'
And in the meantime, it looks as if I will be able to attend Rebel Salute!
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Re: Val Bennett - Meets The Upsetter - Bunny Lee P « Result #41 on Dec 28, 2009, 2:50pm »
I once saw a Tommy McCook LP on Carl's here in Sweden. It was still sealed and was sold for £6. Never bought it for some reason. Today of course I do regret it. It could have been good.
Tracklisting; 1. Tack Five Rock Steady (The Russians Are Comming) 2. Dark Shades Of Africa 3. It's All In The Game 4. Let's Fall In Love 5. Carl's Rock Steady 6. Sentimental Rock 7. Come Closer Rock 8. When I Fall In Love 9. Yellow Bird 10. Island In The Sun Never heard it though.
Re: Rhythm Wise #1 « Result #44 on Dec 28, 2009, 1:08pm »
Dear Penny/Mash,
Jean sent out these massive packages at the time. I got one, Penny got one, Roger Dalke - got one. They contained all her info she had gathered. What she wanted to publish next was mainly her findings on Keith Hudson and Yabby U. She also sent out about 20 tapes covering those two artists/producers - amazing stuff some of which as still not been released.
LIke I said the whole thing stopped because of a lack of money.
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Re: The Vegas speaks his mind « Result #46 on Dec 28, 2009, 12:21pm »
Obviously this always comes down to the same kind of discussion and even though for dancehall (roots is a whole different discussion) I mostly agree with the sentiments for a more old-school approach, I do disagree with some of the arguments held against it though, which mainly come across to me as a generation-gap more than anything else. Some points that I feel wrongly presented, feel free to disagree:
> but a rootless tree slowly dies
Since when is the new dancehall a rootless tree? That's an odd statement and one with a questionable basis. The tendency to put modern dancehall under the name 'hiphop' is quite silly. Definitely influenced by it and elements of hiphop and, especially, R&B added to it, but referring to it more as a second-rate copy of rap/R&B than dancehall is weird. It's clearly developped from dancehall of yesteryears with new elements added, so it's obviously rooted in JA music and not a new style that appeared out of the blue. Since this rap/R&B influences came on, I asked two of my students about this, one being a big rap-fan (mainly mainstream, the big names) with the occassional R&B tracks he rates and the other a modern dancehall fan with her main preference being Serani and Kartel. I played the rap-guy some recent dancehall tunes by Mavado and Busy Signal (the only dancehall artists I had on my iPod) and asked him what he thought of the style. In no way he even thought of it as similar to what he normally listens to (he didn't really like it actually). And when I asked the girl what she thought of popular rap and R&B she said she doesn't really like it cause it misses the beat that makes dancehall and the dancing to it so nice. Both are around 19-20 years old. Hardly scientific evidence, ofcourse, but it's always the older people calling it hiphop, while the real listeners to it might hear the influences but see it as it is, dancehall 2009 stylee.
> they are forgetting what made their local genres so unique and don't build on their predecessors ' culture and music genres.
That's like blaming the JA youth for doing something else. Similarly you can then blame a new rock group of teenagers for not sounding enough like the Beatles or the Stones. Or blame a new jazz group mixing in influences from other genres that they don't sound like Charlie Parker enough. To me it always sounds as if the expectations for the JA youth is that they have to do everything in line with the older days, which is quite bizarre.
> they could be developed in new exciting ways when mixed with other influences
That's exactly what they're doing, just not the influences you want, but does that make it wrong? Again, love to see it differently myself too, but don't blame them for making this choice. Obviously it's more than fine to not like where it's going, but it's too easy to say, ok, new influences are fine, as long as they're the ones I like and I don't like it, so they're wrong. It moves in a direction you wish it didn't, but that has happened numerous times in the past of JA music, just like when people thought reggae died when the digital revolution made a change in the style.
Besides, they're using US influences again, isn't that what you read in every book on how reggae started?
> dancehall hype is very much alive but their record biz is almost dead.
True thing.
I think I've maybe bought two or three dancehall tracks this entire year, plus the very nice latest Mavado CD, so I repeat, I'd love something different too (more pounding bass please!), but I'm not gonna blame the current artists and / or producers for it. It's 2009, apparantely the new style is what the people of JA want, and if that's the wish of the people, how can that be wrong? I usually don't like modern jazz, but I don't blame the artists for making it. The one thing that is way more important in current dancehall isn't the style itself (that's taste in my book), but quality control. It's a hype industry and that doesn't help in the creative process of writing songs and producing riddims. Way more important than the influences of US styles I think and the place where real improvement can be made.
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Re: Rhythm Wise #1 « Result #48 on Dec 28, 2009, 10:56am »
So you have two manuscripts/drafts? I just remember Ray mentioning that Jean had done some write downs on Keith Hudson rhythms and simply assumed it was the unpublished manuscript.
As for the youths being the ultimate reference, yes, for a while, but a rootless tree slowly dies...The main problem is current JA music can't be too exciting if first of all, the US rap/r&b sounds of the 2000's do nothing for you. That's exactly my problem : i don't like the original, so how could i like the second-rate copy ?
Mighty nicely stated...
And as you alluded to, looking at the "Top 50 Selling Releases" in 2009 for a full-length reggae release is stark: under 80,000 thousand sold each for the 1st & 2nd best sellers, Sean Paul & Matisyahu. And the drop in physical sale is not being made up by down-load income.
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But yes I totally agree with Marc's selections that the Courtney John and Tarrus Riley releases on Peckings were the best two from that label this year, and closely followed by Gappy's Turn The Stereo On (if only it had come out on 7!) 
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